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# Don't delete a policy item (like this one) when it has aged or answers have been provided.  Instead, we will be archiving them to the bottom of this page.   
 
# Don't delete a policy item (like this one) when it has aged or answers have been provided.  Instead, we will be archiving them to the bottom of this page.   
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# Take advantage and use the '''"special page: Recent changes"''' to see where people are commenting on specific characters, topics or whatever.  Don't promote a local issue to this '''Help Talk Page''' unless you feel strongly that it is global in scope.  Even then, think twice about just how strongly you feel about that global nature of your topic.   
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# Take advantage and use the '''"special page: Recent changes"''' to see where people are commenting on specific characters, topics or whatever.  Don't promote a local issue to this '''Community portal page''' unless you feel strongly that it is global in scope.  Even then, think twice about just how strongly you feel about that global nature of your topic.   
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For now this is just a holding ground of sorts.  But it will be the place to talk about policies, overall presentation, template changes...
 
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More to come for this section as we move along.
 
  
 
--[[User:Infobroker|Infobroker]] ([[User talk:Infobroker|talk]]) 18:08, 8 July 2013 (PDT)
 
--[[User:Infobroker|Infobroker]] ([[User talk:Infobroker|talk]]) 18:08, 8 July 2013 (PDT)
  
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== To Do List (miscellaneous stuff) ==
 
  
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== Special Policy Note: '''''Documenting an Aging Super-Hero Universe'''''  ==
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* Documentation pages for the character templates. (done --[[User:Infobroker|Infobroker]] ([[User talk:Infobroker|talk]]) 07:10, 27 August 2013 (PDT))
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It's hard to believe that three decades have past since the publication of Astro City first started way back in 1995.  Also a bit surprising that the last new Astro City material is now several years old as well.  A lot of time has past and it becomes a documentation nightmare for a super-hero mythology that ages in real time, but no new material is available to track their current progress.  I would ask that the this website adapt a policy of freezing character status, age, relationship, and pretty much all historical information, confirmed or speculated, and be confined to what has been revealed in the issues at hand.   In other words, no interpolating fan speculations/conjectures to how the characters, devices, situations might have evolved to a current point in time landscape.
  
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* A collected page for Street Names - rather than them scattered, unless it is a really special street, with something really special happening there.
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It is easy to assume that a lot of these characters are retired, perhaps dead, or encountered other life changing activities. Please fight the urge to append such extrapolations to this website. At least for now. If and when there is ever a new issue of Astro City, then this policy can be lifted.
  
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* There are still lots of pages to dredge from the Wayback Machine website. (hint hint)
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Thanks for your understanding.
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* There are lots of  Dark Age incidental characters that still need adding.  Good excuse to go back and re-read the story arc in its entirety.  My only problem, I get interrupted when I find a fun incidental, like the [[Universals]] and I want to post an entry for them here on Herocopia.
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[[User:Infobroker|Infobroker]] ([[User talk:Infobroker|talk]]) 20:20, 26 March 2026 (CDT)
  
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* Need a 'bot for correcting punctuation for appearance lists.  Had one in the past, but I think I had a hard drive crash on the computer where that was stored and running.
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* '''Looking at upcoming issues, it would be nice if we can get the Confessor, Samaritan and Winged Victory clean and shiny. Of the three, WV is probably the most demanding. Any takers?''' </s>  ('''UPDATE''': These are looking much better.  Thanks Guys! --[[User:Infobroker|Infobroker]] ([[User talk:Infobroker|talk]]) 21:18, 25 September 2013 (PDT))
 
  
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== Time Demarcations ==
 
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For now, let's use a demarcation point of the start of the current Astro Cities(2013) series as a line between current and past activities and the start of the very first Astro City comic (Aug1995) as the dividing point for early and middle periods of past activities.  We can discuss and adjust...
 
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--[[User:Infobroker|Infobroker]] ([[User talk:Infobroker|talk]]) 07:00, 27 August 2013 (PDT)
 
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== Issue Title Templates ==
 
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* The templates for formatting Astro City Comics titles need to be rebuilt.  I want the names to match what is in the indentia.  The abbreviations can be whatever we like.  Then we need to incorporate them into the appearance lists and elsewhere.  For the most part let's use 'bots here.
 
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For now, just use something that you are comfortable with.  Making it look like what we have been cut-n-pasting from the old pages would be helpful to the 'bots.
 
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Once I have the templates working I will append something here and on the Help page.
 
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--[[User:Infobroker|Infobroker]] ([[User talk:Infobroker|talk]]) 07:10, 27 August 2013 (PDT)
 
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update: --[[User:Infobroker|Infobroker]] ([[User talk:Infobroker|talk]]) 12:03, 4 September 2013 (PDT)
 
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* templates and the issue pages. We need to talk about content for the individual issues and best means for referencing them when authoring articles.  I have a scheme here, but it is a bit difficult to explain.  Plan to discuss with Fenyx4 a table for indicating how the cross-referencing for this works.
 
  
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== 'bots ==
  
 
: I have been trying to get 'bots working for some time.  It has been an on again, off again project that I do as I have time.  For whatever reason, it is just not taking for this web site provider that Fenyx4 and I have set up.  Still working on it.  It will be handy for things like sort-order for all the "The" entries.  But for now don't hold your breath waiting for it.  It is proving very stubborn and the standard how-to guides aren't working.  I am thinking it might be a permissions problem, but I can't figure out where or why.  Still working on this.  --[[User:Infobroker|Infobroker]] ([[User talk:Infobroker|talk]]) 10:58, 23 February 2014 (PST)
 
: I have been trying to get 'bots working for some time.  It has been an on again, off again project that I do as I have time.  For whatever reason, it is just not taking for this web site provider that Fenyx4 and I have set up.  Still working on it.  It will be handy for things like sort-order for all the "The" entries.  But for now don't hold your breath waiting for it.  It is proving very stubborn and the standard how-to guides aren't working.  I am thinking it might be a permissions problem, but I can't figure out where or why.  Still working on this.  --[[User:Infobroker|Infobroker]] ([[User talk:Infobroker|talk]]) 10:58, 23 February 2014 (PST)
  
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== Legacy characters ==
 
  
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I admit, the I and II designations to differentiate characters with the same name bugs me a little. Mainly because it's not a designation the characters themselves use, unlike, say, Kroseth IV. Plus, a more casual fan isn't necessarily going to know whether the one he's looking for is I or II. Anyone who didn't read that one caption box of the Visitor's Guide, forex, wouldn't know the "main" Flying Fox is actually the second person to use that name. Looking at how other wikis do it (e.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robotman), I find that method preferable. For example, the two Flying Foxes could be Flying Fox (modern) and Flying Fox (1940s).
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== Mister Smartie (tip) ==
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Just so everyone understands, those EditMark boxes with Mr. Smartie in them are not permanent. They are bookmarks for commentary and keeping track of places that need work. In most cases, anyone is welcome to use them. I don't recommend wasting your time putting link markers inside them. Eventually the boxes will be edited away.
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--[[User:Yiding|Yiding]] ([[User talk:Yiding|talk]]) 04:00, 10 September 2013 (PDT)
 
  
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:This is one of those suggestions that is so good (and so obvious), I wonder why we weren't doing it a long time ago.  Take a peek sir at the Sidebar to the left. I also like that a title like 'Flying Fox (1940s)' explains things instead of adding confusion. Nice all around.  
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:The Mister Smartie template will be the tool of preference for keeping track of "to do" items.  They will be especially effective for requesting help from system admins.
  
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:Sidenote #1: Just to be clear, the Confessor and Jack-in-the-Box - those should stay on one page, do not need a Disambiguation.  There may some others. 
 
  
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:Sidenote #2: The Disambiguation page as a category will stay around. In a few months(once we are use to it as an organizational structure), it being listed on the sidebar will probably no longer be called out.
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== [edit] section ==
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We have changed things so that the '[edit]' section no longer displays by default.  It was visually annoying.  This is now the default setting.  You can still edit, just not by sections. If you want to see the section "edit" link, you can change it in your 'Preferences' section.  (Upper right area on this very page).
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--[[User:Infobroker|Infobroker]] ([[User talk:Infobroker|talk]]) 16:13, 2 October 2013 (PDT)
  
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== Suppressing Table Of  Contents - now default  ==
  
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::I'd guess we just followed the pattern of Quarrel II being one of the first entries for every other example like Flying Fox and Hummingbird, etc. And that's how Mr. Bridwell had it I believe in his database.<br>
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Title says it all.  Another visual distraction of mediaWiki.  If you want to see the Table Of Contents, you can override it in your Preferences. We are also looking into finding a way to embed it in the info-boxes  --[[User:Infobroker|Infobroker]] ([[User talk:Infobroker|talk]]) 07:38, 27 August 2014 (PDT)
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Bouncing Beatnik/Halcyon Hippie/Broken Man?/Others? might be the only one I could think of like that, but as far we know right now, they're all different entities. --[[User:Astrozac|Astrozac]] ([[User talk:Astrozac|talk]]) 09:28, 10 September 2013 (PDT)
 
  
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:::Well, I jumped the gun on Hummingbird, but stopped before changing Hummgingbird II, but the (an)other option is to refer to the one that is well known and put the note at the top of the page. (E.G. Flying Fox will lead you to the second Flying Foxes' page, with a note telling you if you're looking for the first Flying Fox go here.)
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Fenyx4 has also figured out how to get the Table of Contents embeded in the info-boxes. It looks much better there. It still defaults to NOT being shown. If you want it, your personal Preference tab should be clicked. --[[User:Infobroker|Infobroker]] ([[User talk:Infobroker|talk]]) 23:09, 30 November 2015 (PST)
  
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:::The other thing is compared to Wikipedia, I'm not super familiar with other Wikis, we use it sort of backwards, I believe. Granted we don't have as much material but when you go to Wikipedia, looking for something, you type it in the search. Here it seems we go looking more under the categories and don't do many searches or is that just me?
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Well, establishing TOC settings are not as easy as it use to be. They have removed the options for showing/suppressing the TOC in the Preference Tab. You control overriding the site's default by establishing  your own '''user cascading style sheet'''.    Do the following.
  
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:::Is the disambiguation more for when they are equally known/unknown? Or will it better just to use the disambiguation for all to let users find out about heroes/things they didn't know about? And it would cover us with the never knows about Astro City (e.g. The Flying Fox of the 1940s might be fleshed out more prominently than the current Flying Fox down the road.). Just a question before we start changing them around...  
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# "Create a '''<skin>.css''' file.  <skin> equals whatever skin type you are running.  Site default is '''vector'''.
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# Save the file. You may have to clear your browser cache to see your changes.
  
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:::--[[User:Astrozac|Astrozac]] ([[User talk:Astrozac|talk]]) 09:48, 10 September 2013 (PDT)
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If you have further questions, do a Google search on "mediawiki TOC" and also check out the tutorials for [http://www.w3schools.com/css/css_display_visibility.asp, CSS layouts].
  
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--[[User:Infobroker|Infobroker]] ([[User talk:Infobroker|talk]]) 22:15, 1 December 2015 (PST)
  
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== Mister Smartie (tip) ==
 
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Just so everyone understands, those EditMark boxes with Mr. Smartie in them are not permanent. They are bookmarks for commentary and keeping track of places that need work. In most cases, anyone is welcome to use them. I don't recommend wasting your time putting link markers inside them. Eventually the boxes will be edited away.
 
  
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- jb the ib -
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== Anonymous Edits ==
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Fenyx4 finished the software upgrades.  One plus to this action, '''anonymous edits''' are back.  Different method for getting in.  Deceptively simple safeguard, yet uniquely effective.  We'll see how it goes. 
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--[[User:Infobroker|Infobroker]] --[[User:Infobroker|Infobroker]] ([[User talk:Infobroker|talk]]) 23:09, 30 November 2015 (PST)

Latest revision as of 20:21, 26 March 2026

Introductions to General Policies[edit]

This page is the meeting ground for Herocopia.com topics that are more global in scope. A place to ask generic questions, raise concerns, discuss design and content issues.

A couple of slight difference for the veteran contributors to be aware of please.

  1. Don't delete a policy item (like this one) when it has aged or answers have been provided. Instead, we will be archiving them to the bottom of this page.
  2. Take advantage and use the "special page: Recent changes" to see where people are commenting on specific characters, topics or whatever. Don't promote a local issue to this Community portal page unless you feel strongly that it is global in scope. Even then, think twice about just how strongly you feel about that global nature of your topic.

--Infobroker (talk) 18:08, 8 July 2013 (PDT)


Special Policy Note: Documenting an Aging Super-Hero Universe[edit]

It's hard to believe that three decades have past since the publication of Astro City first started way back in 1995. Also a bit surprising that the last new Astro City material is now several years old as well. A lot of time has past and it becomes a documentation nightmare for a super-hero mythology that ages in real time, but no new material is available to track their current progress. I would ask that the this website adapt a policy of freezing character status, age, relationship, and pretty much all historical information, confirmed or speculated, and be confined to what has been revealed in the issues at hand. In other words, no interpolating fan speculations/conjectures to how the characters, devices, situations might have evolved to a current point in time landscape.

It is easy to assume that a lot of these characters are retired, perhaps dead, or encountered other life changing activities. Please fight the urge to append such extrapolations to this website. At least for now. If and when there is ever a new issue of Astro City, then this policy can be lifted.

Thanks for your understanding.

Infobroker (talk) 20:20, 26 March 2026 (CDT)


'bots[edit]

I have been trying to get 'bots working for some time. It has been an on again, off again project that I do as I have time. For whatever reason, it is just not taking for this web site provider that Fenyx4 and I have set up. Still working on it. It will be handy for things like sort-order for all the "The" entries. But for now don't hold your breath waiting for it. It is proving very stubborn and the standard how-to guides aren't working. I am thinking it might be a permissions problem, but I can't figure out where or why. Still working on this. --Infobroker (talk) 10:58, 23 February 2014 (PST)


Mister Smartie (tip)[edit]

Just so everyone understands, those EditMark boxes with Mr. Smartie in them are not permanent. They are bookmarks for commentary and keeping track of places that need work. In most cases, anyone is welcome to use them. I don't recommend wasting your time putting link markers inside them. Eventually the boxes will be edited away.

- jb the ib -

The Mister Smartie template will be the tool of preference for keeping track of "to do" items. They will be especially effective for requesting help from system admins.


[edit] section[edit]

We have changed things so that the '[edit]' section no longer displays by default. It was visually annoying. This is now the default setting. You can still edit, just not by sections. If you want to see the section "edit" link, you can change it in your 'Preferences' section. (Upper right area on this very page). --Infobroker (talk) 16:13, 2 October 2013 (PDT)

Suppressing Table Of Contents - now default[edit]

Title says it all. Another visual distraction of mediaWiki. If you want to see the Table Of Contents, you can override it in your Preferences. We are also looking into finding a way to embed it in the info-boxes --Infobroker (talk) 07:38, 27 August 2014 (PDT)

Fenyx4 has also figured out how to get the Table of Contents embeded in the info-boxes. It looks much better there. It still defaults to NOT being shown. If you want it, your personal Preference tab should be clicked. --Infobroker (talk) 23:09, 30 November 2015 (PST)

(update) Well, establishing TOC settings are not as easy as it use to be. They have removed the options for showing/suppressing the TOC in the Preference Tab. You control overriding the site's default by establishing your own user cascading style sheet. Do the following.

  1. "Create a <skin>.css file. <skin> equals whatever skin type you are running. Site default is vector.
  2. In the <skin>.css file add the following: "''.toc, #toc { display: block; }''"
  3. Save the file. You may have to clear your browser cache to see your changes.

If you have further questions, do a Google search on "mediawiki TOC" and also check out the tutorials for CSS layouts.

--Infobroker (talk) 22:15, 1 December 2015 (PST)


Anonymous Edits[edit]

Fenyx4 finished the software upgrades. One plus to this action, anonymous edits are back. Different method for getting in. Deceptively simple safeguard, yet uniquely effective. We'll see how it goes. --Infobroker --Infobroker (talk) 23:09, 30 November 2015 (PST)

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